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Liz Gardiner's avatar

Can we please just save time and acknowledge, openly, that Farage is a lying racist? He gets more air-time than pretty much any other MP. His Reform party is aimed at hard-of-thinking racists. His hate-filled rhetoric should be called out and he must be brought to account for his racism and for fomenting hate and rioting.

Nina S's avatar

Another brilliant article. The really scary thing is that there is little evidence of the BBC or ITN addressing these lies on TV and radio news.

How do we get through to the now 35% just how dangerous and destructive Farage and his ilk are. And what do floor-crossers from Labour like Cllr Dan Sutherland in Calderdale have to say about this constant industrial scale lying when not long ago they would have been opposing them?

Trevor Perrin's avatar

They are just self seeking & want to be on the winning side.

Many go into politics now, with no real conviction but as a career - even to joining the party in which they think they'll have the most success. In 1960s, '50s, '70s - politicians had almost always had a 'proper useful job' first - barrister, doctor, industrialist, business person, academic (rarer), civil servant.

Alan Bond's avatar

Nothing surprises me when it comes to farrago the fascist. He LIES for a pastime, just like his hero trumpty dumpty. He, and his cronies are actually NAZI blackshirts in plain clothes. Oswald Mosley would have been proud of him. The tune is still the same but it didn't work in the 1930s and it will NOT work now. Everybody knows farrago and his cronies as trump backside lickers and we don't want them (or him) in the country, spewing their LIES and bile. Those who vote for him should be utterly ASHAMED !

Trevor Perrin's avatar

Sadly people Don't know it. Humans want someone to hate and blame. It did not work in 1930s because this island was more cohesive, there was less dark ££ in politics and one paper might be a bit right week, and another a bit left. now all the tablets are more rightwing than the 'old' rightwing. There was such a thing as a common Morality. Apart from the 'Royal' family, thee was a smaller disparity between the wealthiest and the poorest, and a sense among many rich, 'Noblesse oblige' meaning if you were privileged by position or wealth - you OWED it to others to help, & not just in handouts.

Colin's avatar

Well we locked up Moseley eventually thought it took a world war war to do it.

You could believe that Farage is a Russian agent too. All he has done is try to damage this country with his lies. He takes money from Putin by the back door and is trying to end our democracy. He has also taken money from the loonies behind MAGA.

The Russian agent case is more obvious because they have been our main enemy since 1920 save for 41 45 and the pre Putin era since 1991. Since he is acting in their interests why should he immune from prosecution, and possible imprisonment?

Polls are however are misleading. People vote differently in a General Election. Lots of parties have done well in polls and in bye lections but these are often protest votes. Lets see how with a bevy of stupid quotes that would discredit anyone seeking office they and he will do in a few years time.

Trevor Perrin's avatar

I like your support for Justice, commonsense & optimism. However, as Lab & Con determinedly knock flat with a sense of outrage policies which they've held in common alternately when each was in power, Plus there equally squalid 'doings' & 'cheating' there's plenty of space for a 3rd party to get in. Great shame Lib Dems aren't holding forth - but if they have any ethics about where they obtain their party ££, they can never compete with Farage's 'money from anyone, I'll promise you anything & blind side you with words like 'Justice''.

The Greens would be good too but receive even less media attention than LDs & have even less money.

Andrew Baker-Davies's avatar

If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.

Joseph Goebbels

Bev Haigh-Jones's avatar

Everything about Farage is abhorent and his words are poisoning our society. So many parallels with his idol, Trump! I feel ashamed when I see the actions of British people responding to his lies and rhetoric of hate.

Trevor Perrin's avatar

I agree 100% He is an incarnation of evil & seems to have all the media in his pocket.

Yes, where is the impartiality of the BBC? nowhere, it never looks behind his lies or seek to check the veracity of his statements. In 50 years if not sooner, the boot will be on the other foot & UK cits will be trying to leave this country for a more civilized & rational one. If there are any left.

Val Gaize's avatar

Oh, Mark! - I agree with every word! Every time Farrago (I loved Alan Bond's comment, too!) utters a lie, it's clear to me not just what the lie is, but how it's a lie, and what the truth is. And while I know I'm reasonably intelligent (and I have the exams to prove it!), Farrago is so unsubtle about his lies that I do wonder how he manages to convince so many that he's telling the truth - and even that he has their best interests at heart. Are there really so many gullible folks about? Moreover, the European Convention on Human Rights, and our own Human Rights Act, ensure so many protections for us who are lucky enough NOT to be hapless refugees (in law, there's no such thing as an 'illegal migrant': since 1951 ALL refugees are protected by law) that it would be nothing short of disastrous to abandon or repeal them, and leave ourselves exposed to any flights of authoritarian whimsy Farrago and other authoritarian bullies or would-be dictators chose to inflict on us. He's such a fraud! - always appearing on the news propping up the bar in a pub, quaffing a pint - when we're reliably informed he prefers red wine . . . He wouldn't recognise honesty if it got up and bit him on the bum - God rot his fascist socks! One thing: that referendum. The result was roughly 51% leave, roughly 49% remain; but the turnout was only 28% - because most folks didn't imagine anyone could be foolish enough to drag us out of an institution so very much in our best interests, so they didn't think they need bother. How wrong they were! - though success didn't shut Farrago up - it just moved him on to more and more outrageously inauspicious demands.

Nina S's avatar

I agree with your comments bu, fact Check, the turnout in the Referendum was 72%. Nevertheless, that still means only approx I in 3 adults voted for Brexit, and many of those were my age cohort and older. About 5 million people have died since the referendum and its a fair guess that probably 60% or more were Leave voters, whilst anotherc5 million of today's adults were too young to vote in the Referendum Ots time the current government formally began the process of applying to (re)join, with membership of the Customs Union and the Single Market as the first steps.

Dick Bower's avatar

So true but I worry that pieces like this are simply preaching to the choir. Farage's popularity continues to grow apace despite all we know about him, including how ineffectual he would be in government, just like his orange mentor.

William Winterford's avatar

You articulate well the problem of Farage and his like. What worries me is how do we educate enough people, those who respond to emotive soundbites, to see him for what he is. People voted in droves for his "Brexit" nonsense, and even now, when most sane people accept that it was a disaster for Britain, instead of ending up in the political stocks, he is still commanding a following, stepping blindly into the next disaster.

Andrew Gardiner's avatar

Amazing how suddenly 'patriotic' England has become this August.

For flags of St George read Swastikas.

David's avatar

Farage is a self promoting, evil little con man who is taking a leaf out of the trump handbook on narcissistic despots. He appeals to the British maga crowd and must not be allowed to spread his evil lies. Parliament must expel him asap.

Libby's avatar

He's vile. Just like his friend in the US.

Chris Rees's avatar

Thank you, Mark, 'for banging on about this all the time'.

I, and many people like me, these days, rely upon people such as yourself to deal publicly with the filth that Farage and his like poison our public discourse.

These days I can hardly type (thank God for auto correct) but more than fifty years ago, I was a Metropolitan policeman and Special Branch officer who was protecting our national politicians such as the PM, Margaret Thatcher, so have a much greater awareness of security matters than Farage and the far right pretend to propound in their public assertions.

They are totally untrustworthy, both superficially and in the final analysis.

Black Pearl (Slava Ukraini)'s avatar

Liked, restacked and shared to Blue Sky. Vile man!

Val Gaize's avatar

I see the point of Tony Somerset's comment, being on the verbose side myself. Trouble is, matching soundbite for soundbite just leaves both looking unconvincing! If X comes out with a blatant lie, it's no good Y just saying 'That's a blatant lie!' because Z could just counter: 'Well Y would say that, wouldn't he?' - whether Y was right or wrong. You have to offer reasoning, if not proof!

Andrew Gardiner's avatar

As mentioned in Private Eye recently: 'never take the gullibility of the British public for granted'.

Amy Whitehead's avatar

Tony Somerset refers to the ‘wordiness’ of the Ugly Politix articles and he has a point. But it’s also true that lies and propaganda are easily reduced to dog whistle, rabble rousing slogans whereas truth is more nuanced and complex. But we do need to find a suitable was to hit back with our own pithy slogans, even if we risk a lawsuit for slander from Faggy Nige! We can’t let him get away with indirectly inciting unrest under the guise of predicting it.