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Chris Rees's avatar

It's unsurprising to me that Reform produces lots of motions.

For in the dim and distant past of my childhood, a motion was an emptying of the bowels (to put it politely)

Colin's avatar

Reform are even more revolting. A collection of thugs racists and ner do wells. Farage is a nasty piece of work.

Colin's avatar

I've just noted that the Poundshop Trump has no plans to allow publication of his tax and financial affairs after he was accused of irregularities in his purchase of a property in Clacton. What has he got to hide?

Colin's avatar

At the Reform conference Yussuf declared that the removal of immigrants from this country will Mirror what goes on in the US under Trump. Who wants that terrible stuff here? Not me.

Sue Cuthbert's avatar

In 1930s Germany,the people were duped in a similar way by Hitler,I'm very sorry to say.Look how that ended

Mike's avatar

Absolutely spot on.

Michel Martinez's avatar

Are you actually blaming Hitler for what has become of Germany? You have been duped.

Sue Cuthbert's avatar

Not at all. Todays Germany is totally different .I know the country well and have many good friends there.

Michel Martinez's avatar

If you like Multiculturalism.

Michael O'Dwyer's avatar

Which many of us do l. Why are so many people so frightened of the different ways in which different cultures can bring joy and beauty into the world - while accepting that all cultures (including white Anglo-Saxon culture) can sometimes have an ugly and oppressive side.

Black Pearl (Slava Ukraini)'s avatar

Farage is a loathsome creep, with loathsome pseudo-policies. He is the foul face of a resurrected National Front, and confuses jingoism with patriotism; and who sadly panders to the true Brexiteers - the deluded fools who fancy that the "Great" in Great Britain refers to the UK's past (and imagined present) glories, and not simply to the size of the island! We have an amazing history, and that history has been enhanced by immigration, as well as the emigration of our brightest and best. Immigrants are the lifeblood of the country, doing, as they do, the jobs that the UK can't/won't either do or fulfill. No moronic Trumpist and Orange Anus kisser will "solve" it in "two weeks". Shame we can't just deport Farage to the South Sudan.

Michel Martinez's avatar

Farage bragged about destroying the Britain First Party.

Colin's avatar

Lets face it he destroys anything that doesn't slavishly agree with him.

Black Pearl (Slava Ukraini)'s avatar

Yes, he seems to have assisted in its rebrand - but the BNP and its ancestor the National Front all flourish, with his diseased inflammatory (inflammaTory?) rhetoric.

Jeremy Bell's avatar

38 times on question time! Where is his opposition. The British media should be all over this berk!

Sue Wailoo's avatar

"First they fascinate the fools. Then they muzzle the intelligent". Bertrand Russell - How fascism starts.

W Adam's avatar

Very good analysis. Sadly his fans just seem to get off on hate. The applause for Connolly was awful. She admitted the crime yet once released she’s back on stage heralded as a heroine.

Liz Gardiner's avatar

Reform's/Farage's latest ideas smack of Nazism and must be rejected at all costs.

Farage is the class clown (but much more menacing) and his team are just as dangerous.

What has happened to our wonderful, welcoming country that even the thought of a party like Reform having any sort of power is in people's minds?

Reform is the worst of us. Britain and its people are better than this.

Jo Hanlon's avatar

There's no need for civil servants or anybody to sift facts and make considered judgements when all you need is some thugs in riot gear and cattle trucks to transport people en masse. If Nige's role model can get away with similar in the US - why not here?

Colin's avatar

Thugs should be locked up indefinitely they are dangerous. Lets start with Robinson, why is he free after assaulting an older chap in Kings Cross. He has 3 convictions for assault already. It's time to hand down a 5 year plus sentence, plus a licence period..

TonySomerset's avatar

Your analysis of Reform is of course spot on but unfortunately in doing so you sustain the illusion that he has any credible offering. Worse still, in bothering to counter his claims you expose yourself to being dismissed by his supporters as just prejudiced or lacking in understanding or politically biased or whatever. That is not the fundamental point, just as Trump demonstrates every day, you dont have to be an administrator. You dont have to be able to negotiate complicated bi-lateral deals even legislation. You dont even have to have any coherent policies. You just have to have the stupidity to make happen what your fantasy world believes. Oh, and surround yourself with yes persons and make sure you place yes persons in all the key contra-departments. High-roller support of course helps.

No the real problems are simply that the polls show ground swell of support for their utter nonsense, plus a media intent on giving him an audience as if any word he utters is credible. That is the challenge staring us in the face.

How do rational people, like us, counter the instant crowd-pleasing headlines without directly reinforcing their appeal with rebuttals that then imply there is substance in them. This is now a well practiced performance by Boris, Trump now mimic Farage which the sane moderates are unable to counter.

One ray of hope is the new Green Leader who is able to speak off script with passion a clear fore sighted view and in simple language that addresses headon the major societal problems we have to face, not just the current instant crowd obsessions.

Diana Brighouse's avatar

I completely agree. The media - BBC in particular - have been reprehensible in their so-called impartiality. Farage occupies far more media space than he should - way more than, say, Ed Davey who leads over 70 LibDem MPs. His grinning face figures far too often on and offline, even in the Guardian.

How do we rebut the spurious claims of Reform and enter genuine debate about them (which would expose them for the hot air that they are)? I too have hopes that Zack Polanski will introduce fresh blood into the political arena.

TonySomerset's avatar

Rebutting gets you nowhere, just more flippant one-liners and you have reinforced an audience for their nonsense. 1- 0 to them

Jonathan Mark Hirst DYSON's avatar

The BBC have assiduously pushed two vacuous politicians over the last 10 years; Farage & Diane Abbott.

TonySomerset's avatar

so the underlying question who is funding these idiots and what is their gain/purpose. Have you read vulture capitalism?

Jonathan Mark Hirst DYSON's avatar

That’s because the new Green leader went to stage school

TonySomerset's avatar

but he is not speaking pap, not to my mind

Brian Basham's avatar

It was high camp. Heavily focussed on Farrage. Could have been orchestrated by Leni Riefenstahl - a clear case of Mine Campf

William Winterford's avatar

It is a very real problem with dire consequences. I feel that Starmer needs to pull a multitude of rabbits out of a plethora of hats in order to appease the lemmings heading for the Farage clifftop. However, I don't think he has either the political skill or the funding to combat Reform on any level that would deflect the sheep-like followers. The thought of Farage becomig PM actually terrifies me; it would mean disaster for the UK infrastructure and make us the kind of laughing stock across the world that Trump has made America. Get rid of FPTP now, and we might survive.

Jonathan Mark Hirst DYSON's avatar

The financial markets would kill off a Farage government within a week (before he’d got round to stopping the boats.)

Mike's avatar

That is very likely true, but at what cost to the country? Truss times lots, I suspect.

Alicia Coumbe's avatar

A very well written piece. Nigel Farage is dangerous in this current climate as people don't see him for who he actually is.

There is no substance to his promises and you can't just 'get rid of illegals that quickly', it takes time.

Problem with Farage is he doesn't like legal immigrants either. Shall I remind him about foreign NHS staff who go above and beyond as well as legal immigrants that work in a lot of other areas of work.

Alan Thorpe's avatar

Unfortunately, any talk about "foreign NHS staff" will only get used in his well-oiled cries to "get rid of the NHS". His solution? Make the UK health scene a copy of America's - I wonder how that really appeals to the MBGA crowd...

Mike's avatar

I agree, but even a us-style (lower case intentional, the americans have lost any right to respect) healthcare system needs staff, as much as the NHS does. By the way, greatest respect for the NHS, worth fighting for.

Peter Chadwick's avatar

Mark Kieran's comments always ring true. This oe certainly does!

Jean Marie Wilson-Main's avatar

The Media appear to love Farage as there’s hardly any criticism of him and he’s always on. As for the stop the boats causing thunderous applause, no-one ever asks how it will be done and can it be done, and this doesn’t show the UK in a good light. All Reform fans look like idiots, plus, Farage is a mad Trump fan and do Reform fans ever note what’s happening in the USA?

Mike's avatar

Reform fans are unthinking idiots, and are a disgrace to the country.

The right wing dominated press is also a disgrace, as are those organizations that are preparing to kowtow to him in a similar manner to those in the us. Utterly disgusting.

Patrick Newman's avatar

Is it possible that Farage is peeking too soon and will be on the way down before the next election?